The Believer: Alien Encounters, Hard Science, and the Passion of John Mack - Ralph Blumenthal Audiobook

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  yeongjodynamic
  October 17th, 2021
  

  

  In November 1994 Mack travelled to Ruwa, Zimbabwe to interview children at the Ariel School who claimed that they had seen a UFO land near their school and aliens exit the craft.

  The Believer: Alien Encounters, Hard Science, and the Passion of John Mack - Ralph Blumenthal
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  caesar963
  October 17th, 2021
  

  He should come & have a chat with me. Sure, I’ve often seen worse than that after a night out. The doctor said it was just a bad pint, or a dodgy kebab. That, and I had been campaigning hard in Gaul for several years. Mystery meat, that’s what we used to call the kebabs.

  (Just to confirm: the writer was a Harvard professor of psychiatry & a Pulitzer Prize winning author, right?)

  The Believer: Alien Encounters, Hard Science, and the Passion of John Mack - Ralph Blumenthal
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  caesar963
  October 17th, 2021
  

  Y’know, that incident in Zimbabwe could’ve been the Trumps arriving to scout locations for a new hotel. They were probably going to bulldoze the Ariel School. Monsters.

  The Believer: Alien Encounters, Hard Science, and the Passion of John Mack - Ralph Blumenthal
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  Acanthrohu
  October 17th, 2021
  

  

  The 1966 Westall sighting is an interesting case. Even now, 55 years after the incident, witnesses are still solid on their story. Around 200 students and several teachers were present. To the best of my knowledge none have never changed their story.

  The Believer: Alien Encounters, Hard Science, and the Passion of John Mack - Ralph Blumenthal
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  apnea
  October 18th, 2021
  

  Aliens, Jesus, Big Foot, etc, etc, etc….call me when you have proof. In the meantime, you sit at the kiddies table.

  The Believer: Alien Encounters, Hard Science, and the Passion of John Mack - Ralph Blumenthal
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  Eddiej1880
  October 18th, 2021
  

  

  The problem with the whole “show me proof” thing is its a case of damned if you do damned if you don’t. If your shown a blurry image of a “UFO” the response is the same, “Thats not proof, look how blurry that photo is, it can be anything, come back when you have a CLEAR photo. So they come back with a clear photo and the response is “Come on, that photo is obviously photoshopped, look at how perfect it is. Now I’m not saying I believe in UFO’s and I’m not saying I don’t, but my point is that some people, no matter what, are just not willing to accept something, no matter the evidence presented. Just because some people believe in something you don’t doesn’t give you the right to insult them. How do you know aliens haven’t visited this planet? Have you investigated each and ever reported sighting? Travel to the Roman Empire and tell them about the Apollo missions and then see who’s told to sit at the kiddie table. With 100 billion stars in a galaxy, and 100 billion galaxies who’s to say what is and what isn’t out there. Just because we can’t travel in interstellar space yet doesn’t mean there are not others that can. Also,for a species that would be vastly more advanced then us, that could potentially travel to other star systems, I’d wager that it would be pretty easy for them to hide any and all traces of their existence from us if they wanted to. Again, not saying I believe 100% in UFO’s, because I don’t, but I also know, that I don’t know, enough to ridicule someone for their ideas, especially when millions and millions of people, including the largest governments on this world, have believed in there possible existence enough to spend tens of millions of dollars, and probably much more, to see if there is some truth to these claims.

  The Believer: Alien Encounters, Hard Science, and the Passion of John Mack - Ralph Blumenthal
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  caesar963
  October 18th, 2021
  

  Yeah, that’s all here & there, and so forth, but why are they so intrigued by our lower gastrointestinal tracts? To travel all that way, power thru all those dilithium crystals, all the while evading elite units of Sardaukar, just to poke around in poopenshafften? Are they intergalactic final year proctology students, or what? These books are silent on such rationales…

  The Believer: Alien Encounters, Hard Science, and the Passion of John Mack - Ralph Blumenthal
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  andyinmanch
  October 18th, 2021
  

  “Hard Science” lol

  The Believer: Alien Encounters, Hard Science, and the Passion of John Mack - Ralph Blumenthal
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  nicolas72
  October 19th, 2021
  

  

  I don’t care about the content. Phil Thron could narrate a phone book or the bible and i would still listen to it.

  Thanks for sharing.

  The Believer: Alien Encounters, Hard Science, and the Passion of John Mack - Ralph Blumenthal
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  sameasy
  October 19th, 2021
  

  Pretty certain they’re all seeing billionaire alien space tourists

  The Believer: Alien Encounters, Hard Science, and the Passion of John Mack - Ralph Blumenthal
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  Acanthrohu
  October 20th, 2021
  

  

  The kiddie table wasn’t large enough to accommodate all the highly trained fighter pilots and radar specialist who have observed objects they have been unable to identify.

  Many pilots risked their careers by reporting what they had seen. At least nowadays they have the flight cameras to verify their own observations.

  The Believer: Alien Encounters, Hard Science, and the Passion of John Mack - Ralph Blumenthal
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  blade56
  October 22nd, 2021
  

  

  I tried to give this a fair listen but as it is mainly from the point of view of a drug filled fantasy land believer in anything and everything it is impossible to take seriously. No empirical view point whatsoever, toothfairy-ish, laughable.

  The Believer: Alien Encounters, Hard Science, and the Passion of John Mack - Ralph Blumenthal
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  Acanthrohu
  October 23rd, 2021
  

  

  Re the Kecksburg,PA UFO case of 1965. NASA refused repeated requests to release documents relating to the incident. A FOIA lawsuit was brought against NASA in 2002. It was a hard fought case by both sides. NASA did everything it could to win the case, but finally lost it in 2007. The court forced NASA to conduct a search for, and release, all relevant documents. NASA was also required to pay all legal fees.

  The court monitored the search for documents. The documents were finally released in 2009. Many files were missing or destroyed. However State Department documents show that NASA played a role in the recovery and examination of space object debris.

  This court case must have cost taxpayers a small fortune. Why did NASA persist with the case, spending so much time and money, if it had nothing to hide? Obviously it did have secrets and still has them somewhere, as do other government agencies.

  The Believer: Alien Encounters, Hard Science, and the Passion of John Mack - Ralph Blumenthal
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  yeongjodynamic
  October 24th, 2021
  

  NASA chief Bill Nelson talks UFOs and ET life 10/23/2021

  It is an ever changing narrative. I find the subject entertaining.

  The Believer: Alien Encounters, Hard Science, and the Passion of John Mack - Ralph Blumenthal
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  Acanthrohu
  October 25th, 2021
  

  

  @yeongjodynamic - Thanks for that. When the head of NASA is coming out and speaking so openly on the subject it makes you think.

  Re the Navy pilots radars locking onto the objects, I’m sure the skeptics would say it was a software malfunction.

  Re the court case I mentioned, it’s just not logical for any organization to go to so much effort to prevent documents being made pubic if there’s nothing to hide.

  Cheers,

  The Believer: Alien Encounters, Hard Science, and the Passion of John Mack - Ralph Blumenthal
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  yeongjodynamic
  October 26th, 2021
  

  

  @Acanthrohu it is a very dangerous subject, consider for a moment the implications of Luis Elizondo most recent interview “on Biological UFO Samples, Remote Viewing, and explaining Sombers” on Theories of Everything with Curt Jaimungal.
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wULw64ZL1Bg

  It overturn human civilizational development, world religions, current and past political structures, self identity, nearly all foundational cornerstones of human understanding of their self identity including critical race theory.

  Luis Elizondo is basically saying Zecharia Sitchin nailed it with his book “The Lost Book of Enki - Memoirs and Prophecies of an Extraterrestrial God” https://paranormalaudio.com/audio-books/the-lost-book-of-enki-memoirs-and-prophecies-of-an-extraterrestrial-god-zecharia-sitchin/

  How would world-wide humanity deal with learning that Homo erectus was in fact genetically modified by non-human entities which their genetically modified product - Homo sapiens, and then - Homo Sapiens sapiens referred to as their gods.

  This is basically what Luis Elizondo stated and Bill Nelson all but confirmed.

  Weird.

  The Believer: Alien Encounters, Hard Science, and the Passion of John Mack - Ralph Blumenthal
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  galaksee
  June 14th, 2022
  

  

  Omggg it’s so hard to listen to a book of this seriousness in the voice of Cal Carver! Space Team series… Narrated by Phil Thron… Literally best book series of all time.

  The Believer: Alien Encounters, Hard Science, and the Passion of John Mack - Ralph Blumenthal

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